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[ARGUMENT] Are Medals Important?

Wesser
post Jul 20 2011, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE (Adler @ Jul 17 2011, 06:35 AM) *
I recommended you for a medal by the way lol. blush.gif

Why? The most difficult part was just finding where the game stores the camera matrix for "Live TV". Deji's just created the matrix with that function. You're recommending a lot of people because of your role at GTAForums.com.

Anyways, Deji you've done a good work, though. You were talking about MTA, but I can't find any resources about this modification into the public source code.

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post Jul 20 2011, 02:03 PM
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There is nothing about MTA that has information on this stuff, as far as I know.


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post Jul 20 2011, 04:29 PM
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Oh, I apologize. I mixed NTA (NTAuthority) with MTA (Multi Theft Auto). laugh.gif
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post Jul 20 2011, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (Wesser @ Jul 20 2011, 01:13 AM) *
Why? The most difficult part was just finding where the game stores the camera matrix for "Live TV". Deji's just created the matrix with that function. You're recommending a lot of people because of your role at GTAForums.com.

What... 2 people? lol I wouldn't say that's a lot. Of course it's not just the Live TV thing, Deji's very dedicated to his hacking SA.


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post Jul 20 2011, 10:07 PM
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So, do you barely confess your recommendations? Nice, I was looking forward to this event. GTAForums.com is becoming the homeland of insignificant awarded users. I do not ever discredit GTAForums.com for any reason but only people like you.

You're guessing my work is irrelevant when compared to Deji. That's your opinion then. I have nothing wrong with Deji (I'd be frustrated), but I might begin having some against you.

I'm really sorry, Adler. I have no friends or enemies on the Net (even in "normal" life), so I prefer having both lists empty. sad.gif
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post Jul 21 2011, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE (Wesser @ Jul 20 2011, 11:07 PM) *
I have no friends [...] (even in "normal" life)


Rly? Or you mean that you don't have enemies IRL? laugh.gif
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post Jul 21 2011, 10:41 AM
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I was meaning both. Friends may be your parents and no one. It's the nature, so I shouldn't wonder so much. mellow.gif

We're going offtopic, thought. tongue.gif
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post Jul 21 2011, 01:42 PM
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How can yeh live without real life enemies? tongue.gif


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post Jul 21 2011, 05:12 PM
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Being mostly unknown is the keyword. thumbsup.gif
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post Jul 21 2011, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (Wesser @ Jul 20 2011, 03:07 PM) *
So, do you barely confess your recommendations?

To be honest, I really have only recommended 2 people (BnB and Deji). BnB for his III Coding Archive, which he put in a lot of work for and Deji for his overall contributions. The latter only got a Verbal Commendation which I felt should have been a medal. It may seem like "a lot," but I have no further plans for recommending people for commendations. I really emphasize the "recommend" part, since it's not in my position to give out medals and such. It's the moderators and admins that make that decision.

QUOTE (Wesser @ Jul 20 2011, 03:07 PM) *
You're guessing my work is irrelevant when compared to Deji. That's your opinion then. I have nothing wrong with Deji (I'd be frustrated), but I might begin having some against you.

In no way was I implying that, Wesser. You've forgotten that you already have a medal? wink.gif

Recommending these people was my way of giving back. People have been nice to me so I'll be nice to them. I haven't forgotten the times when you helped me out either. rolleyes.gif


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post Jul 22 2011, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE (Adler @ Jul 21 2011, 10:26 PM) *
To be honest, I really have only recommended 2 people (BnB and Deji). BnB for his III Coding Archive, which he put in a lot of work for and Deji for his overall contributions.

Recommending at least one people is enough. BnB's just shown the link of someone else effort, nothing special.

QUOTE (Adler @ Jul 21 2011, 10:26 PM) *
It's not in my position to give out medals and such. It's the moderators and admins that make that decision.

So, leave them the faculty of deciding without any influence.

QUOTE (Adler @ Jul 21 2011, 10:26 PM) *
You've forgotten that you already have a medal?

I've got my medal for annual vote: I'd like to say something original than what BnB has done. I spent much more time than him to find out an innovative method to do real animations. Nevertheless, his medal is far better than mine.

I'm not jealous of other people medal, but I'm just criticizing the way they get an award (on the basis of their personal merits, it should be).
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post Jul 22 2011, 10:35 AM
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I stopped caring about medals when DYOM again got released at 31th of December and got more votes than The '95 Story and Citizen got together. Three times in a row.
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post Jul 22 2011, 10:49 AM
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Yeah, I've never cared about the models either. To me they're just pictures they put on your posts to say "I've been a good boy". I prefer general appreciation of what I've done.

Now quit the arguing or take it to PM... Or better yet, GTAForums tongue.gif


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post Jul 22 2011, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE (Wesser @ Jul 22 2011, 12:32 PM) *
I'm not jealous of other people medal, but I'm just criticizing the way they get an award (on the basis of their personal merits, it should be).

I admit that the reward was excessive beacause i didn't made something original as you said, but man look around Cheat won a medal because he made a Music category Directory which is not even GTA related and original as you said also two other people won a disscusion medal, which is very rare, because they wrote VAGINA poems in the OGA forums WTF. And my medal didn't change who am I, I am still a n00b who doesn't know how to use IDA.
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post Jul 22 2011, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (Silent @ Jul 22 2011, 12:35 PM) *
I stopped caring about medals when DYOM again got released at 31th of December and got more votes than The '95 Story and Citizen got together. Three times in a row.

Yep, I strongly disagree the fact DYOM is proposed to be voted every year. The mod itself has been already voted once: in this way other users just give his vote on the update they've made in a year.

QUOTE (Deji @ Jul 22 2011, 12:49 PM) *
Quit the arguing or take it to PM.

Yeah, but you're partially right, because more people can give his opinion here.

QUOTE (BnB @ Jul 22 2011, 03:22 PM) *
I admit that the reward was excessive beacause i didn't made something original as you said.

Your post does you credit, mate. I'm reffering to Deji aswell (I tried to quote the first sentence of Deji but I got an error for many quote blocks used in a post). wink.gif

QUOTE (BnB @ Jul 22 2011, 03:22 PM) *
Cheat won a medal because he made a Music category Directory which is not even GTA related and original as you said also two other people won a disscusion medal, which is very rare, because they wrote VAGINA poems in the OGA forums WTF.

You do not have to take care about others but firstly reproach yourself. It isn't a caution, it's an advice!

QUOTE (BnB @ Jul 22 2011, 03:22 PM) *
My medal didn't change who am I, I am still a noob who doesn't know how to use IDA.

R* didn't use hardcoded stuff into main.scm. You can't make this comparison because they're 2 different things. Do not discourage yourself if you're only a nice scripter.
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post Jul 22 2011, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (Wesser @ Jul 22 2011, 02:32 AM) *
I'm not jealous of other people medal, but I'm just criticizing the way they get an award (on the basis of their personal merits, it should be).

Well hey it's just a forum. I didn't realize that it would be such a big deal when I recommended them.

It's not like they're given out like candy to children on good behavior either. I thought that most of the people at GTAF that have medals really deserved them in one way or another.


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post Jul 23 2011, 06:13 PM
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When someone turns into a moderator at a forum, that person might become a little cocky, it's true but Adler just innocently said that because Deji had uncovered a mystery that was unknown for at least 5 years, even though medals aren't handled that easily so Adler precipitated himself a little and if he really posted that at a staff room in GTAForums I can be sure he was a little bashed at. In here he shows no problems even because there's nothing really to moderate but neither we have medals or commendations (yet).
So yeah tl;dr, Adler got a little cocky there.

Wesser, about not having friends, don't worry be happy, I'm almost in the same situation.
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post Jul 23 2011, 07:01 PM
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Cocky my ass. Don't throw words around that you don't know the definitions of.

Really though. In the Staff room I was not even "a little bashed at." I recommended BnB and Deji and the moderators delivered on it. It was as simple as that. The commendation-handing-out process requires very little deliberation on the staff's part. It was a matter of "who appears to be a likely candidate for a medal so that we can reward them for their efforts?" I felt that BnB and Deji gave enough of their time to be deserving of something. A medal at GTAF may be seen as a simple image appended to a username but it evokes the image that the users are respected figures through their work and I believed that they were deserving of the status.

You know what? Fine by me. I didn't have Deji and BnB be commended for this shit. It's not as if I committed a crime here for all of you to put me on trial. I'm fucking sick of all of you. I can't believe that none of you would give me a little sympathy for my actions but chose instead to defame my good name.

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post Jul 23 2011, 07:09 PM
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Okay very well, someone was just expressing their opinion and they were objected, no need to be a drama queen and say you're sick of all of us but it's your choice on what you want to do. We were just noting that medals aren't really given easily, cocky might have been the wrong term but just saying you might've precipitated a little bit. And alright you weren't bashed at, good for you, but it was something I'd expect.
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post Jul 23 2011, 07:17 PM
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*sigh... yeah I might have been a little dramatic but seriously, I think some people gotta have some priorities so that they don't make a little thing a big deal. I thought I was doing something nice for a change since I was always thought of IRL as a selfish person.

Sorry for the outburst but I really don't need people giving me a hard time right now. To have Wesser of all people doing this to me is enough.

@Wesser: If you got a problem with me then fine. It's not as if I'm acting like Demarest with all his power-abusing.

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